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How Much Can You Twist a 3D Print Before it Breaks?
How strong are 3D prints and how do they compare to common building materials?
Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit
In this video we're testing more than 3D printed connections to try to get a better sense of just how much abuse a 3D printed connection can take in comparison to other more well-known materials. We're testing OSB, we're testing Plywood, Solid Spruce, and Solid Maple.
The test is focused on Torque or Twisting the parts to get them to fail, and the results for quite a few of the tests took my by surprise.
I hope you enjoy(ed) the video!
For this video, I've used the Bambu X1C, the filament was Bambu PETG-CF in Brick Red and in Titan Grey linked below (I receive a small commission if purchased through my link and it helps me continue to make videos like these):
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How Strong are 3D Printed Connections?
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Finally we're testing every single connection! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit If you're curious how strong any of the 3D printed connections really are, we were able to get some pretty telling results. I believe that it is possible to print strong parts which can take the abuse if we choose the right connections and materials, we have a long way to go still to come up w...
How Good are Professional 3D Printed Metal Parts?
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We have options! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit I can't wait until we can 3D print with metal at home, but until that time comes, there are some other options out there that are worth a closer look. I've seen so many sponsored videos, and very few people show what these companies can really do, are they even any good? Well in this video we have a very VERY close look at...
A Unique 3D Printed Screw Connection
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One last connection! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit In the previous several videos we created quite a few different connections for joining 3D printed parts together and none of them used any fasteners or adhesive. In this video we're going to create a connection with fasteners, except, it's no ordinary connection with fasteners, it'll have a very unusual shape which pr...
Upgrade for Better AIR FLOW on Your Overhangs and Bridges
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It's amazing what you uncover when you're not even trying! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit I've always known that the part cooling is not that good on the Bambu, but it's a really good printer that gives me almost no trouble at all, so I can't really complain. What I can do it improve an already great printer, so that's the goal for this video. How can we take the Part c...
How Good is the NEW Ender 3 V3 Metal Frame Printer?
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This looks like an impressive printer, so it is? Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit Sometimes what we think will happen vs reality aren't the same. Ever since testing my first CoreXY printers, I thought it would be the end of the bed slinger and we'd see a quick transition to a better format. For smaller bed slingers, it makes quite a bit of sense to me, smaller printers ha...
Adapting the BEST Woodworking Joints for 3D Printing
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Even more connections! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit In the previous video we looked at several different ways to improve the dovetail connection by adapting it and taking advantage of the 3D printing process. In this video, we're going to see if we can create 2 completely new connections which are both inspired by some of the best woodworking connections. We are are t...
Can We 3D Print Working Machine Parts Using This Unique Filament?
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It's lean it's green and it prints like a.... Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit I've been on a mission to use 3D printing to upgrade to fix and to repair as many of my tools as possible, and when it comes to tool repair, 3D printing isn't always what comes to mind first. If we want something stiff, that's precise it's better to machine it from metal and pay what it takes. ...
Modernizing the best Woodworking Joint to use for 3D Printing
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Quite a few viewers requested this video, so here it is! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit In the previous video I showed a brief segment showing this connection that I created, which is my take on an old and wonderful connection which has been used in Woodworking since the dawn of Woodworking. Having made many a dovetail connection by hand in my days as a Woodworker, I th...
STRONG and FULLY 3D Printed Arms for your Ender 3 KE and SE
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You'll want this upgrade for your Ender 3 V3 KE and SE! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit This is the 5th video on this printer, we're nearly there with the upgrades to get this printer printing like a dream, and one thing that's been bothering me is the amount of flex in the posts and vibration I was seeing during printing. There have been a lot of complaints about how sq...
Upgrade your QIDI Q1 Pro with Dual Build-plate Stops + more
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Two stops are better than one! One stop is also better than none! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit The QIDI Q1 Pro has been my go-to printer lately for high quality parts and it has that advantage of being able to reliably print higher-temperature materials, and since I've been using it so much, it could use an upgrade or two so we can get even more out of it. We're going...
Can you 3D print a functional lathe belt from TPU?
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What are the limits of TPU? It seems nearly indestructible, so let's find out! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit TPU Is an incredible material for certain applications, like bumpers, clamp pads, and lathe belts.... what? Lathe Belts? Well maybe yes or maybe no, that's what this video aims to find out. The more I use TPU the more I want to use it, and now that they have Hig...
The FIRST - Ultimate Spool Holder(s) for QIDI Q1 Pro - Stop Monkeying around and use this!
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We'll address one of the two issues with this printer! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit This is a solid printer, and the more I use it, the more I like using it. That said, there is a problem with the spool holder, it's too flexible and acts like a spring. When the printer vibrates just right, the spool holder bounces around and the spool will come off. So our mission for...
The All NEW QIDI Q1 Pro - Affordable, High Performance and High Tem...?
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If you're looking for a new printer, you might want to check out this video. Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit I'm pretty picky when I agree to test a printer out, I've worked with Creality and Bambu, but I had heard good things about QIDI so I thought it was worth a closer look. They happened to have a brand new product that combines high speed printing with accuracy and....
Attach ANYTHING to your Creality Ender 3 V3 KE or SE Printer
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If you want to upgrade your printer you'll want to add these! Help support this channel! www.patreon.com/Needitmakeit This is the 4th video now on this printer and there will be many more, but that's only if we can make this modification to the printer. This printer and the SE aren't easy to upgrade and modify, they look good, but we need some attachment points. This video is all about how to a...
UPGRADE your Creality Ender 3 V3 KE with Linear Rails
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UPGRADE your Creality Ender 3 V3 KE with Linear Rails
Is your Extruder Feed TUBE causing print defects?
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Is your Extruder Feed TUBE causing print defects?
Can you really get FREE stuff from Bambu Lab's Maker World?
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Can you really get FREE stuff from Bambu Lab's Maker World?
Let Your Creality K1 MAX and K1 Printers Soak for the Best First Layers
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Let Your Creality K1 MAX and K1 Printers Soak for the Best First Layers
Quickly Root your Creality K1 Max or K1 Printers
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Quickly Root your Creality K1 Max or K1 Printers
Quick and Simple Fix for the K1 Cable Chain
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Quick and Simple Fix for the K1 Cable Chain
BAD First Layer Your K1 and K1 Max Printer? Here's how to get the best results.
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BAD First Layer Your K1 and K1 Max Printer? Here's how to get the best results.
Creality K1 MAX Any Good? Hint: It Has a Little Secret...
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Creality K1 MAX Any Good? Hint: It Has a Little Secret...
What Causes BAD Print Quality on the Ender 3 V3 KE? - Fast Bed Slinger
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What Causes BAD Print Quality on the Ender 3 V3 KE? - Fast Bed Slinger
Is the Creality Ender 3 V3 KE Any Good?
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Is the Creality Ender 3 V3 KE Any Good?
Strong 3D Printed Connections on BIG parts
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Strong 3D Printed Connections on BIG parts
Can we Make a High Quality 3D Print?
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Can we Make a High Quality 3D Print?
Simple Ways to Make Stronger 3D Prints NUMBER TWO
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Simple Ways to Make Stronger 3D Prints NUMBER TWO
2 Simple Ways to Make Stronger 3D Prints + an Experimental Way
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2 Simple Ways to Make Stronger 3D Prints an Experimental Way
Bambu X1C Active Motor Noise Cancellation Vs Creality K1
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Bambu X1C Active Motor Noise Cancellation Vs Creality K1

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  • @Jai_Lopez
    @Jai_Lopez 3 години тому

    great video man!

  • @mejias4682
    @mejias4682 6 годин тому

    HI AT THIS POINT IN TIME, NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE TO WORK SO HARD TO FIX A BED , HAVING LEVELING ISUUES ESPECIALY AFTER PAYING SO MUCH FOR THIS K1 MAX.

  • @rbyt2010
    @rbyt2010 12 годин тому

    I think we need one of these that has a small fan and low level heater in it :) blow the warmed air right down the middle of the other 3 desiccant chambers (and a battery of course)

  • @rbyt2010
    @rbyt2010 12 годин тому

    very nice - and good F360 chops👍

  • @rajaabouibrahim3337
    @rajaabouibrahim3337 13 годин тому

    Im 90% sure that the inconsistency is not caused by the printer, if you print the scraper gcode included with the printer, and analize it, you CANT see any inconsistency and you'de find it absolutely beautiful, i compared my own designed 3d print with the included gcode and theres plenty of difference in the consistency, there must be some sort of calibration in the slicer to get better results, but overall, its a very capable printer, any replied help on my comment would be great for all of who has an ender 3 v3, NICE VIDEOS BY THE WAY

  • @timg.998
    @timg.998 14 годин тому

    I imported my designs from Printables and Thingiverse and after 10 months I had more than 5000 Points and changed it in gift cards. I used them to buy an AMS for free! That‘s awesome!

  • @sonnym3361
    @sonnym3361 14 годин тому

    Awesome.

  • @michaelstraughn3465
    @michaelstraughn3465 23 години тому

    Think I'll buy a Bambu 3d printer, the same time I buy the v3, so I can go ahead and fix the new v3

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      It's tough to pickup on sarcasm here, I'll assume that was your goal. You can do as you please, I'd tend to want to wait for the next gen of Bambu printers though. The reason for these videos is to help people who have purchased this printer and require solutions to make it more reliable. If you weren't aware, I have lots of videos showing the issues with this printer and I've done what I can to find solutions. Have a good one.

  • @TheGlitchyCorgi
    @TheGlitchyCorgi День тому

    Do you have any plans to test the curved dovetail?

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      I think that's a good idea, I was trying to keep it simple to start but I'm willing to test anything.

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse День тому

    I'd love to see all of these tests with 3D printed metal, but you probably can't afford an SLS metal printer. Still, much appreciated that you did a twist test and very interesting results considering which joints perform better in one test over the other.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      I'd love to test metal 3D printed parts, I have a video showing some parts I had made by PCBWay and they were pretty impressive. They were made from Stainless steel and Aluminum. I've since polished the Aluminum even more and it seems like a completely solid homogeneous part. I'll see what I can come up with to setup some 3D printed Metal part tests. I need some smaller parts or bigger equipment for those tests I'd think!

  • @Dragonited
    @Dragonited День тому

    Do you concider 0.6mm difference between the high and low point to be something I should correct on my K1 Max?

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      0.6 isn't much, if it were me, I'd try to use the shims to get it a little bit better, but it's not so far out and it'll work just find as-is.

    • @Dragonited
      @Dragonited 19 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt I do however experiencing some minor issues with print quality. A test cube comes out pretty much fine with just 0.1-0.2 mm of the 30 mm but that can be because of shrinkage. I did one test with several one layer squares and some of them came out looking like the end of the nozzle scraped into it or something. I then read that you should let the heatbed soak at 60 before starting the print. It then looked ok I thought but I then did a print with a rather large rectangular base and then the lines did not adhere together instead. I think that is if the nozzle is to high up? I wil try to use the spacer thing and I might just use some aluminium tape since that is about 0.12mm thick since I only have PLA currently. It should not compress and would withstand the temperature. I have the K1 Max so it have a 3-4 mm thick machined aluminium plate as the base so it should hold mostly flat. The variance on the unheted bed was just 0.76mm so not so big difference to the heated one. My highest point is in the middle on the left side at +0.54 mm against the glas and slope down just 0.1 mm towards the left corners at +0.44mm while the lowest point is the right corners at -0.11 mm with a slight bow towards the center of the right side that lands just around +0.1mm. So I do wonder which screw I should put the spacers to get it flatter.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 14 годин тому

      Yes, heat soaking will improve your results, I made a video on this, it is called "Let It Soak" in the video description, there is some code you can copy and paste into your slicer which will automate the soaking process. The Max has problems with the bed warping, the issue is a combo of the aluminum plate thickness along with the speed at which the bed heats up, which for that printer is very fast. I have to get back to a video, but if you need some more info, let me know!

    • @Dragonited
      @Dragonited 2 години тому

      @NeedItMakeIt I think it might have been that video I got the tip from. Tried to make a one layer square on the whole bed to test it out, and I could definitely notice the warping before i canceled it.The low corner had low adhesion, so it was just laying down individual strands attached to the border and where it was higher towards the middle on the right side it was instead matte and had some uneven marks perpendicular to the nozzle movement which is rater strange. You might know what would cause that. Will try to make some smaller items like a fan grill for the bed fan and see how that comes out.

  • @rodrigob
    @rodrigob День тому

    Really liking this video series. It is well documented that 3d printer filament strength is affected by the pigments used for colour. Plain gray is often amongst the strongest (not remembering having seen gray versus natural pla strength comparison). Looking forward to seeing optimized versions of these joints.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      That's great! This video seems quite un-popular for some reason compared to the rest of the videos, in any case, I'll keep on going, there are lots of ideas for how to improve the connections or even to combine the concepts from different connections to achieve the best results.

    • @rodrigob
      @rodrigob 17 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt I think the video might be underperforming because the title and preview do not make it clear this is part of the "3d printed joints" series. Looks like a regular "how strong is PLA" test video.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 14 годин тому

      That's good feedback, I'll try something different to give a bit better context and see if that helps!

  • @goldfish2289
    @goldfish2289 День тому

    Have bambu changed the formula for petg cf recently? It prints really good with little problems. Or is regular petg that bad in comparison?

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      They've made some minor changes to the purge cycle, they may have changed the formula a bit as well. I've had great success with the BIQU Panda Jet, it forces the air exactly where it needs to be to cool the filament and prevent it from coming into the chamber. It has a lot to do with the nozzle material and to some extent the nozzle temperature as well. I think the wiping system is novel and works for most materials, it's not 100% reliable for PETG, it needs something like a felt pad to wipe over to ensure no material is left.

    • @goldfish2289
      @goldfish2289 20 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt does your printer have to same wiping and cleaning attachments like the a1 mini has? As soon as I commented yesterday the filament gods were listening and my hose connector I was printing out of petg cf decided to not 😂 it was horrible looking.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 14 годин тому

      It doesn't have quite the same method, I think the A1 series are better because they...well fling it off of the nozzle, for the P1 and X1, it instead rubs it off (that sounds terrible). It has a cylinder made from Teflon which pinches the filament off, but if the filament is too flexible or too sticky, it likes to contact the nozzle and then it will stick and make an awful mess in your print, or in the buildchamber.

    • @goldfish2289
      @goldfish2289 14 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt gtfo! The fling is king 👑. No wonder. It’s way more expensive too. That doesn’t make a hole lot of sense. Yeah the a1 mini is definitely the best 3d printer I’ve owned. It’s my first printer but that’s not the point. I’m super happy I didn’t get the prusa mini.

  • @williamopdyke8813
    @williamopdyke8813 День тому

    Would this work on the SE too? Or does it need different rail lengths and such?

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      Yes, others have used it on the SE, there was some confusion at the beginning, but they are the same. The only difference is the steel plate below the bed, the SE has more hollowing out which doesn't impact anything so it should work just as well.

  • @mlawaljr1
    @mlawaljr1 День тому

    Thank you for that last bit about the K1C. I just ordered one and wondered if it had the same problems. Great content and thank you again.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      You're welcome! I think they did a pretty good job of addressing most of the issues. I think they still need to improve the extruder setup, it looks sleek, but it lacks support on both sides of the gears and causes them to come out of alignment when pressure is applied by the filament coming between them.

  • @MrSshagster
    @MrSshagster День тому

    Great video especially when sizing up prints. Truly appreciate the work. 👍

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      Thanks! I have many more to come. I have one that's pretty cool coming this Saturday

  • @stevegrimeszz
    @stevegrimeszz День тому

    just mount a dial indicator to the head...

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      That'd be nice to have, there is probably space on this printer to do that.

    • @stevegrimeszz
      @stevegrimeszz 13 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt I saw an stl file for a mount on thingyverse.

  • @mijaiscares8580
    @mijaiscares8580 День тому

    Did u notice if input shaping improve with those arms?

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      This printer isn't so nice for input shaping, it lacks the g-sensors from factory. I'd need to buy the kit and install and re-run to gather the results. I'm willing to do it though.

  • @PancakeInvaders
    @PancakeInvaders День тому

    One thing I think you should explore in your videos is concrete-filled 3d prints, Chris Borge has some videos exploring this and I see it as very promising

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      Ah, interesting, I was going to go a little different route, similar vein of thinking though. Use the print as a shell and use a structural material for the inside and get the best of both.

  • @ared18t
    @ared18t День тому

    This man just sashimono woodworked a 3d joint LOL. Honestly I think using a screw makes it weaker. Instead tighten the joint using something that goes perpendicular. The more something pulls the more the joint will stretch into the edge on the other side tightening more.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt День тому

      One larger bolt or something that can go through completely to keep tension would be great. I like your thought process here, let me see what I can come up with!

  • @TS_Mind_Swept
    @TS_Mind_Swept День тому

    That OSB was really One 💩 Board KappaRoss

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      LOL. I'm sure there are better OSBs out there, but I will tell you from experience. I tried to save some $$ and use OSB for workbenches, it worked for the top, and for the lower shelf, but not for mounting casters. When off-center force was applied because the casters were not directly under a 2x4 it peeled the OSB apart and cause the whole bench to fall abruptly. I replaced it with plywood and use longer screws and that solved the problem.

  • @cgrosbeck
    @cgrosbeck 2 дні тому

    CORE XZ is the stupidest thing I have seen!!!! Lets analyze that motion. move x fast withe two motors running in coordination while maintaining a precise z height with those same two motors. Ho ever dreamt this $hit up must be in marketing to sell to the kids / parents that are consumer sheep that won't spend for a proper CORE XY printer. Yep that's it put CORE in the description of the print and it will sell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @JakobDam
    @JakobDam 2 дні тому

    Damn that was interesting! Thanks for making this and doing it so thorough!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 21 годину тому

      I have another really cool one coming up, I don't know the outcome yet, but I'll be doing both deflection and torque on the parts today and should be ready for Saturday. I'm hopeful that it will work the way I think and it could be a great option to make stronger parts without using any more material.

  • @winandd8649
    @winandd8649 2 дні тому

    Don't underestimate the forces handled by a lathe lead screw. It might work for a shor period, but be prepared to change them out regularly. The filament contains glass particles,it WILL wear out your lead screw!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      Yes, I agree. I can apply a force of nearly 250lbs, the handle is quite small and it's hard to get any more than that. My woodworking vises are closer to 600lbs and my giant ATHOL No95 vise is over 2000lbs. I have a couple of load cells and it's fun to test these things out even though I'd never use close to that force for anything I do. Can you do me a solid and check out the follow up video and see what you think. I've since threaded and installed the piece as well and it works perfectly. ua-cam.com/video/o1vrfEl1uc8/v-deo.html

    • @winandd8649
      @winandd8649 19 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt O I did not see that follow up video, now I have. Very nice!!

  • @TheNextGreatGamer
    @TheNextGreatGamer 2 дні тому

    Would this work on the SE version? They're very similar printers and it looks like it might fit. Awesome upgrade!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      Yes it will, I've had a few people already try it out and there is only one difference, and that's on the steel plate below the bed, it is more hollowed out on the SE than the KE. That does not impact anything for the installation so it should be G2G!

  • @justaguy4788
    @justaguy4788 2 дні тому

    You should have tried not attaching the tube anywhere. From the toolhead to wherever it terminates behind the machine. It would go up, eliminating 1 tight 90* bend, and no bends as it moves around

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      I wanted to revisit this, so maybe I can set something up in a future video.

  • @TGTech.3d
    @TGTech.3d 2 дні тому

    qual software aparece as 00:30 do video?

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff 2 дні тому

    I'm very surprised at how bad the plywood was

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      I've seen this issue in the industry as well and we would use thick 1" CDX exterior grade fir plywood. When we would screw into the side of the plywood, it would easily split it apart. I'd have to test other types of plywood to get a full picture, Baltic birch plywood comes to mind as one of the better ones. I can certainly run some tests.

    • @NicksStuff
      @NicksStuff 20 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt I would find that interesting. I would be curious also to see twisting test along the layer lines (for plywood and for filament).

  • @Ron.88
    @Ron.88 2 дні тому

    Did you modify the files then not provide files in the description link??

    • @Ron.88
      @Ron.88 2 дні тому

      Disregard. It looks like you linked both the bad one and your improved one and I just didn't open all the links.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 17 годин тому

      I liked the others only because I mentioned them in the video. I'd recommend printing in a color that's not similar to your spools, it's easier to tell that they're in there. A few times, I've not noticed them inside of a black spool, and they've come out and hit the floor pretty hard.

    • @Ron.88
      @Ron.88 17 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt thank you for the reply. It’s quite humid in my office so I’ll be printing your designs.

  • @RamonArisRodriguez
    @RamonArisRodriguez 2 дні тому

    The solid peace can do better if you print the part with a 36° angle

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      That would be 36 degree rotated around the z axis?

  • @gltovar
    @gltovar 2 дні тому

    Would be mildly interesting to see if there is any strength improvements by printing the orientation of each half at 90 degrees from one another. Right now the layer lines are parallel, but if you printed one half where you have to roll it 90 degrees to mate them together would that have different properties

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      I think that could be right, if we're calling the layers and extrusion the "Grain" it makes sense that like wood we'd have the best results with parallel grain.

  • @robertpearson1981
    @robertpearson1981 2 дні тому

    Do u happen to sell both of the upgrades I like both the upgrades you did.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 14 годин тому

      I don't really do prints for other people, with shipping and material etc. it isn't justifiable at this time. I'm sure there are sites you can have models printed from someone local. If there isn't a site like that, there should be so you can save on shipping.

  • @SpiralDiving
    @SpiralDiving 3 дні тому

    I don't get it. These joints are designed to be used with glue not screws. Not how all the joints separate before failing in the material. You could use FEM to predict where the stress concentration is and design accordingly?

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      I've designed each of the connections to come together without glue. Some connections would do better with an adhesive I agree, some connections would push the adhesive out while trying to bring the joint together. I think using a software to predict is a great idea. I had the module in fusion, but it is quite expensive, I'll get it again if I can get enough income to pay for it.

  • @xpim3d
    @xpim3d 3 дні тому

    Red parts fail first because it is the side of the wrench. If you repeat the test with the parts in the reverse orientation, black will fail first.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      Could be, I've also tested for deflection in a separate video and the red failed far more than the grey. I am told that Grey is one of the strongest colors, I would like to run tests to remove the variables. each test piece is completely red and completely grey, and then have a few samples of each for a better average.

  • @ElectroMac74
    @ElectroMac74 3 дні тому

    CAN YOU BRING WASTE TO ZERO BY PRINTING A COLOR FREE REAL (NOT A TOWER) SIDE PRINT

  • @matthewgaraffa751
    @matthewgaraffa751 3 дні тому

    It's worth noting that in all of these tests the Under Squin design appeared to have a non-destructive failure. It could simply be reassembled again. Depending on the application, this can be very valuable.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      With some small changes it could have also performed far better. I think one idea is to somewhat lock the ends in, to do that I'd need to bring the parts together from the side and then add a wedge to further tighten the connection. I really like that connection, it's best for tension and compression, that's the original intent of the design when it was being used in Timber Framing. This is a connection that we would use when I was a Timber-Framer. We didn't have material long enough and were forced to join them, the parts were in a Bent and would normally be in tension. They'd also have support from a King Post or 2 Queen posts Through-tenoned from above, or a post below off to the side. Being able to assemble and disassemble by removing a single wedge is simple and effective.

  • @user-rx9fm8ok1l
    @user-rx9fm8ok1l 3 дні тому

    Very interesting! Thanks!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      You're very welcome, I'm glad you liked it!

  • @thoperSought
    @thoperSought 3 дні тому

    I do want to see the tension test, but I'd also like to see a bending test in the other plane-I don't know if it'll make a difference, but the direction you tested the dovetail seems to be the weaker direction. really enjoying these videos

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 16 годин тому

      All of that can be arranged, I have a few videos I need to finish up and I'll see about getting setup for some more testing.

    • @thoperSought
      @thoperSought 11 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt looking forward to it!!

  • @roboman2444
    @roboman2444 3 дні тому

    Some filaments are stronger with different dyes, or no dye at all.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      Was it Thomas S that did the video on this? I can't recall where I've seen it. I'd like to run some tests with Red Vs Grey, it seems as though Grey is far more durable.

  • @IncendiaryMedia
    @IncendiaryMedia 3 дні тому

    I'd like to see MDF in these comparisons as well; I don't expect it to do that well, but I'm curious how it compares to the 3d prints

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      I can arrange that test. When I was young, I worked for a hardware store and I remember when it first came to market, I bought an entire 3/4" x 4' x 8' MDF sheet for 9 dollars. It was not fun to work with though, the dust and the final weight of the furniture along with how it absorbed the paint. It has it's uses though, nice and flat, consistent thickness. I think that's why you see so much MDF used in laser cutting. They'll always be able to cut through the material with the same amount of passes, with other materials incl. plywood, that's not at all the case.

  • @wolfblade
    @wolfblade 3 дні тому

    I would also like to see your best one tested again with different infill % to see how much difference that makes.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      I think that's a great idea!

  • @GuruMN
    @GuruMN 3 дні тому

    It was nice to know your print settings, that's pretty much the same settings I use when I want maximum strength, although I usually use cubic infill for my own stuff because it's stiffer, gyroid infill flexes. With 6 walls and 12 too and bottom layers, almost all of your strength is there anyway, so the difference between cubic and gyroid is probably not even a factor for almost any application with thick walls and top and bottom layers. Thanks for putting these tests together, interesting to see the differences with the colors, I've noticed the same thing myself, even down to printability(max speed, stringing, etc) being a factor amongst different colors of the same manufacturer and type.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      That's great info, I'll follow up with some more testing videos to hopefully prove it. It's my pleasure to do the testing and put these videos out there .

  • @chatroux399
    @chatroux399 3 дні тому

    Really interesting. Yes , pigments have a huge impact on filaments performances. If my memory is good, red filaments have better impact resistance but are more brittle. There is a really good video from CNC kitchen on this topic

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      Perfect, that's a great to know, it seems that many people have noticed the same thing. So you choose the color based on the characteristics you'd like to have. In the testing the red seemed to be a bit more 'gummy' that was seen best when testing the under squinted connection.

    • @chatroux399
      @chatroux399 15 годин тому

      Or an other easy solution is to take the color natural. It should not contain any pigment 🤣

  • @ModelLights
    @ModelLights 3 дні тому

    From RC helis, don't count on the plastic not wearing out the steel. Plastic loops for ball joints easily wear out the steel balls, etc. 'In comparison, most plastics will have higher wear resistance than metals, including steel. Plastics have low coefficient of friction that allows them to reduce friction between mating surfaces. Less friction means less wear on mechanical parts and equipment.'

  • @ThisisDD
    @ThisisDD 3 дні тому

    What about an interlocking corkscrew joint of some sort?

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      I think it's possible, I just don't know how to 3D print them with no supports, maybe a good candidate for a resin print?

  • @gpdewitt
    @gpdewitt 3 дні тому

    I wonder how well glue lam would do, since unlike OSB, it's designed for structural strength. There's a building more than 15 stories high in Canada build entirely of engineered wood.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 20 годин тому

      I've tested LVLs in the past and the performance was similar to that of solid oak, but at a fraction of the cost. As far as in a torsion test, I'm not sure, they'd be using different adhesives which could come into play. I'd image that they'd perform quite a bit better. I will see if I can get my hands on some, I should be able to.

  • @eugeniusz7144
    @eugeniusz7144 3 дні тому

    To be honest I am not entirely sure if this particular test correlates with something what may be done in real life. Let me explain. Let's imagine You are doing something what can twist - what will You actually do to reinforce the join place? I would imagine something what will go around it - saying a "fixator" of some sort, consisting of two parts which "hug" the connection and between themselves are usually connected via pair of bolts on the opposite sides. Thus - sure thing, the test is really interesting and it shows the way things break when twisted and from practical standpoint I would imagine it to be showing what will happen with the connections which are _accidentally_ twisted and were not designed to withstand this type of deformation. For more practical application and visible deformation I have actually an idea on how to improve this test without interfering with it's visibility - as the "hugging fixator" would definitely block all the nice view :) so, what do You think about having a some sort of a solid bolt ca. 1 cm in diameter with a nut on other side which will prevent the joint from separating in the axis direction - basically providing some sort of compression to the test part? I would imagine this to be a bit closer to real world... maybe. What do You think? P.S. and thanks - yet again - for Your videos and efforts - it is really interesting to watch and understand what really happens in these types of situations so this knowledge can be applied to prevent these issues in projects.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 19 годин тому

      I don't disagree. The best test is to make a "Thing" a frame and perform the tests on that full assembly. I'm working my way up to that, I think that's probably the end goal. I want to find the best connection possible and then we can create a full assembly, maybe even a 3D printer frame would be a good use-case and see how it performs. I can take the K1 printer's parts and recycle them into a 3D printed frame.

  • @aeons80
    @aeons80 3 дні тому

    I was talking to a friend who works at filament manufacturer where they make mostly engineering type filaments, PEEK, PEKK, etc. He said that the pigments in the filament can affect the strength of filament. White in a lot of cases, is the worst because of the titanium dioxide they use to color it. As a general rule, darker colors are typically stronger. He also said, if the filament is hygroscopic, it can also affect the strength.

    • @SeanTaffert
      @SeanTaffert День тому

      You should always try to test natural (un-pigmented) materials to test the resin alone. Colourants can affect strength and even print temperature along with other process parameters. This may be why the darker material seems to have failed less than the red.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 19 годин тому

      Very good info, I'll keep that in mind and I will try to run some tests as well to confirm that. There are so many materials, so I'll try to stick to just one type for now.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 19 годин тому

      Perfect, that's really helpful!

  • @JeremyMcMahan
    @JeremyMcMahan 3 дні тому

    The tension test would be great to see too. In some applications that could be the most important measure.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 19 годин тому

      Some of the original Timber Frame style of connections are designed to be in tension or compression, I think they'd do really well there. I'll see if I can arrange some testing for that too!

  • @SquintyGears
    @SquintyGears 3 дні тому

    Yeah i think a solid beam of each color can be added to testing as a comparison point. It's a known factor that the additives play a role in the strength of plastic and pigment is an additive that varies wildly in quantity from one color to the next

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt 16 годин тому

      I'll make sure to work that into some follow up testing videos!

    • @SquintyGears
      @SquintyGears 16 годин тому

      @@NeedItMakeIt I'm not convinced it's very useful though. because the viewers won't be using the exact colors you are. but it can give an idea of how much more strength it might hold if it was printed fully in the strongest of the 2 colors...